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Dernier message par Wizzy - Hier à 18:11:24Aleph en schéma jaune/noir/violet
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#5
Questions de règles - N5 / Re : [N5] Q&R Discord des règl...
Dernier message par Wizzy - Hier à 18:09:02Vitapack
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17:22]Soil: Hey, just want to latch on here and be sure if I understand it correctly.
So, I can use the Vitapack the same order I picked it up?
So far the people I've played with said I can pick it up in one order and use it earliest in the next order.
However, your discussion seems to contradict this.
Is this the common understanding, that the (nicely done) image is a correct explanation?
Thanks!
17:23]Soil: Yeah, nice. I thought that would be the case, but I failed to express this outcome as well. Thanks for the clarification 🙂
17:32]Ian James Wood: Yes, you can use it in the same Order that you pick it up. This is even covered in the example.
What's debatable is whether you can pick it up 'later on' in your movement path than when you were in contact with the target.
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17:22]Soil: Hey, just want to latch on here and be sure if I understand it correctly.
So, I can use the Vitapack the same order I picked it up?
So far the people I've played with said I can pick it up in one order and use it earliest in the next order.
However, your discussion seems to contradict this.
Is this the common understanding, that the (nicely done) image is a correct explanation?
Thanks!
17:23]Soil: Yeah, nice. I thought that would be the case, but I failed to express this outcome as well. Thanks for the clarification 🙂
17:32]Ian James Wood: Yes, you can use it in the same Order that you pick it up. This is even covered in the example.
What's debatable is whether you can pick it up 'later on' in your movement path than when you were in contact with the target.
#6
Questions de règles - N5 / Re : [N5] Q&R Discord des règl...
Dernier message par Wizzy - Hier à 18:08:25Line of fire
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12:43]Mal'Nebiros: I'd read it as meaning the intent is that a curved building can be thought of as lots of infinitely short lines forming the curve and the tangent of where your base touches it is what matters
[12:44]Ian James Wood: I'd like to get it rewritten (or an FAQ added) that the point you're in contact with has to be blocking LoF, but I think it's going to be an uphill struggle.
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12:43]Mal'Nebiros: I'd read it as meaning the intent is that a curved building can be thought of as lots of infinitely short lines forming the curve and the tangent of where your base touches it is what matters
[12:44]Ian James Wood: I'd like to get it rewritten (or an FAQ added) that the point you're in contact with has to be blocking LoF, but I think it's going to be an uphill struggle.
#7
Questions de règles - N5 / Re : [N5] Q&R Discord des règl...
Dernier message par Wizzy - Hier à 18:07:48BS Attack (-x)
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[04:22]Knarfy: I mean I can't think of a single other weapon entry that just has a '-X' with no other indication as to what, so it wouldn't really be an exception to anything
[04:26]Ian James Wood: It's directly equivalent to 'BS Attack (-3)' etc.
If you're using the Skill/weapon/equipment, the MOD applies to the enemy in FtF Rolls.
Anyway, I'll look at adding PARA CCW (-X) as an example on the wiki.
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[04:22]Knarfy: I mean I can't think of a single other weapon entry that just has a '-X' with no other indication as to what, so it wouldn't really be an exception to anything
[04:26]Ian James Wood: It's directly equivalent to 'BS Attack (-3)' etc.
If you're using the Skill/weapon/equipment, the MOD applies to the enemy in FtF Rolls.
Anyway, I'll look at adding PARA CCW (-X) as an example on the wiki.
#8
Questions de règles - N5 / Re : [N5] Q&R Discord des règl...
Dernier message par Wizzy - Hier à 18:06:40Paroles of Prophet
[22:13]Ian James Wood: Important edit: these are arguments from first principles, this is not an FAQ!
So.
Strategos, Open and Private Information, etc.
Part one, because apparently the text is too long. 🤣
First, there are some outstanding issues when it comes to Open and Private Information. The Open and Private Info section says that Private Info becomes Open Info when 'a specific game event forces you to disclose it'. But the Private Information Label talks about when 'it is used'. We also have to remember that, by default, Open and Private Information applies to information about your Army List. It doesn't automatically apply to all actions and effects that happen during the game. Which is why, for example, there is text saying that Order Pools and the expenditure of Orders is Open Information. Because this information is not part of your Army List.
We can safely discard the Private Information Label's version, as it breaks the game if you apply it consistently. The only practical definition of 'use' for an Automatic Skill is if you apply its Effects. Which would mean that, for example, you would have to reveal who is using the Lieutenant Skill when you use the Effects of the Skill. Such as generating a Lieutenant Order, or possibly even having a Lieutenant during the Loss of Lieutenant check.
So simply using an Automatic Skill with the Private Information Label won't reveal the Private Information, it has to be forced by a game event. My personal take on this is that, for example, you don't need to reveal Chain of Command when the Trooper takes over as Lieutenant as that's also Private Information, but you do need to reveal it when making use of CoC to act as a Specialist Troop.
Edited to add lost formatting.
And part two...
Next, Automatic Skills in general. These are not actions that happen during an Order, you don't declare them in the way that you do a Basic Short Skill, Short Skill, Long Skill, or ARO Skill. They're either on or off. However there are some situations that force you to say whether a specific Automatic Skill is being used, even if this would reveal Private Information. This mainly comes down to Skills that change how AROs are generated such as Stealth, or that apply MODs such as Mimetism. So you have to say if the Active Trooper is using Stealth, and if you shoot at a HoloMasked Trooper you have to reveal that they don't have Mimetism when MODs are calculated.
But there are also a lot of Automatic Skills that are 'owned' by a Trooper without affecting that Trooper, like Strategos, Counterintelligence, or most of Inspiring Leadership. These Automatic Skills have army-level or game-level effects. I think any attempt to tie these to a specific Trooper when their Effects are used is going to break the game really quickly. For example 'this specific Hidden Deployment Trooper, who is deployed here (points at spot X) is using Counterintelligence' or 'I'm holding back an extra Trooper during deployment, and no there isn't a Strategos Trooper on the table yet'.
In conclusion...
I recommend that you do not need to reveal who has 'used' Strategos. You will need to say which of your Troopers who is in Model form and is on the table have Strategos, as that is Open Information from your Army List. And in the case of Saladin plus HoloMasked Troopers disguised as Saladin, all of the Saladins on the table 'have' Strategos as far as your opponent is concerned.
Edited to add lost formatting.
And related, do you need to say which Automatic Skill was used to deploy outside your Deployment Zone? 🤮
Because that's another of the really horrible implications of having to announce all uses of Automatic Skills and tie the uses to a specific Trooper.
'This Camo Marker used Infiltration, while this other one used Forward Deployment (+4") and this third one used Forward Deployment (+8")'.
[22:13]Ian James Wood: Important edit: these are arguments from first principles, this is not an FAQ!
So.
Strategos, Open and Private Information, etc.
Part one, because apparently the text is too long. 🤣
First, there are some outstanding issues when it comes to Open and Private Information. The Open and Private Info section says that Private Info becomes Open Info when 'a specific game event forces you to disclose it'. But the Private Information Label talks about when 'it is used'. We also have to remember that, by default, Open and Private Information applies to information about your Army List. It doesn't automatically apply to all actions and effects that happen during the game. Which is why, for example, there is text saying that Order Pools and the expenditure of Orders is Open Information. Because this information is not part of your Army List.
We can safely discard the Private Information Label's version, as it breaks the game if you apply it consistently. The only practical definition of 'use' for an Automatic Skill is if you apply its Effects. Which would mean that, for example, you would have to reveal who is using the Lieutenant Skill when you use the Effects of the Skill. Such as generating a Lieutenant Order, or possibly even having a Lieutenant during the Loss of Lieutenant check.
So simply using an Automatic Skill with the Private Information Label won't reveal the Private Information, it has to be forced by a game event. My personal take on this is that, for example, you don't need to reveal Chain of Command when the Trooper takes over as Lieutenant as that's also Private Information, but you do need to reveal it when making use of CoC to act as a Specialist Troop.
Edited to add lost formatting.
And part two...
Next, Automatic Skills in general. These are not actions that happen during an Order, you don't declare them in the way that you do a Basic Short Skill, Short Skill, Long Skill, or ARO Skill. They're either on or off. However there are some situations that force you to say whether a specific Automatic Skill is being used, even if this would reveal Private Information. This mainly comes down to Skills that change how AROs are generated such as Stealth, or that apply MODs such as Mimetism. So you have to say if the Active Trooper is using Stealth, and if you shoot at a HoloMasked Trooper you have to reveal that they don't have Mimetism when MODs are calculated.
But there are also a lot of Automatic Skills that are 'owned' by a Trooper without affecting that Trooper, like Strategos, Counterintelligence, or most of Inspiring Leadership. These Automatic Skills have army-level or game-level effects. I think any attempt to tie these to a specific Trooper when their Effects are used is going to break the game really quickly. For example 'this specific Hidden Deployment Trooper, who is deployed here (points at spot X) is using Counterintelligence' or 'I'm holding back an extra Trooper during deployment, and no there isn't a Strategos Trooper on the table yet'.
In conclusion...
I recommend that you do not need to reveal who has 'used' Strategos. You will need to say which of your Troopers who is in Model form and is on the table have Strategos, as that is Open Information from your Army List. And in the case of Saladin plus HoloMasked Troopers disguised as Saladin, all of the Saladins on the table 'have' Strategos as far as your opponent is concerned.
Edited to add lost formatting.
And related, do you need to say which Automatic Skill was used to deploy outside your Deployment Zone? 🤮
Because that's another of the really horrible implications of having to announce all uses of Automatic Skills and tie the uses to a specific Trooper.
'This Camo Marker used Infiltration, while this other one used Forward Deployment (+4") and this third one used Forward Deployment (+8")'.
#9
Questions de règles - N5 / Re : [N5] Q&R Discord des règl...
Dernier message par Wizzy - Hier à 18:05:58Private Information
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[16:23]CyberJunkInTheTrunk: if someone's combat group 2 has only HD or AD (private info) troops on it, is it public info that Group 2 exists?
[16:23]CyberJunkInTheTrunk: Someone assorted this sort of strongly yesterday but I didn't find anything that implied it was
[16:26]Ian James Wood: It's not on the list of Private Information, so is Open.
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[16:23]CyberJunkInTheTrunk: if someone's combat group 2 has only HD or AD (private info) troops on it, is it public info that Group 2 exists?
[16:23]CyberJunkInTheTrunk: Someone assorted this sort of strongly yesterday but I didn't find anything that implied it was
[16:26]Ian James Wood: It's not on the list of Private Information, so is Open.
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